Ok I'm going Horde pvp server
Debating on best race
Love troll look but think there more suited for just pve
Tauren & Orcs both are appealing aswell..going enhance I think for leveling but have no issues healing in raids...ele is cool just not mana efficient

Also profession..read I shld go herb & skinning to 60 then drop skin for alch...hmm is this ideal?
Thx in advance for any suggestions or help

if you want to min-max:
PvP: Orc > Tauren > Troll
PvE: Troll > Orc / Tauren

Personally i will roll orc and get alchemy from the beginning as pots make the leveling experience easier. +4 str for 1 hour at level 7 is a pretty big boost.

You have to remember that min/maxing based on racial abilities is only theoretical and to be honest with you even if two players, one Orc one Troll, were playing 100% optimally in a BG or duel or whatever, had the exact same gear, same professions and same consumables then perhaps one race might trump another, perhaps. Without those assumptions the deciding factor between who beats who hardly ever comes down to that though, and it is more often than not the skill level of the individual players, not the racial abilities, that decides the outcome of a PvP situation.

But to answer you I think Tauren is a little underrated for Enhance because of increased melee range, and war stomp is really useful too. But Orcs have great racials too as we all know.

Though if you really dig Trolls and would be happier playing as one just roll Troll, and if you're a good player you'll do well regardless of the race choice.

Like Vlostek said, for PvP it's Orc, no argument. Stun resist outweighs Tauren racial and Trolls berserker, it also outweighs Taurens leeway if you plan on going enhancement. Second best is obviously Tauren for warstomp and 5% health. Lastly it's Troll with Berserker.

For PvE it's Troll no argument. I'm not sure if Hardiness works vs boss stuns (if there are any) if so Orc would be second and lastly Tauren.

ya okay but Taurens can /moo.

Erik wrote: ↑

5 years ago

Like Vlostek said, for PvP it's Orc, no argument. Stun resist outweighs Tauren racia

Generally I agree with this statement. However! Shaman is a race that has no hard CC (re: stuns), all their CC is movement impairing effects, like Frost Shock, Earthbind totem, etc. Having a stun on a class that doesn't have a stun, even if it's on a two minute cooldown, is still very good to have and comes in very handy.

However, with that said, if you are planning to go Elemental for PvP at 60 I would shy away from Tauren only because of their increased hitbox. Melee classes will be able to hit you from farther away than they would be able to hit an Orc or a Troll.

As for professions, I think if you're wanting to focus on PvP more than PvE (as it sounds like) I would highly recommend going Mining/Engineering. The tools you get from Engineering are quite simply amazing. Grenades will give your class that stun that they are missing.

Also, don't discount berzerking, because that extra haste is really good, plus, leveling with Beastslaying is really good too since most of the mobs you encounter in the world are beasts.

With all this said, min maxing will only get you so far and if you hate the look of your character you will soon find yourself rerolling to a character you do like the look of. This is why I never play Orcs. I just really don't like how they look. Same goes for Undead. Tauren and Troll are my favourite races aesthetically, and hell, even loretically (just made that up).

Justbe wrote: ↑

5 years ago

Erik wrote: ↑

5 years ago

Like Vlostek said, for PvP it's Orc, no argument. Stun resist outweighs Tauren racia

Generally I agree with this statement. However! Shaman is a race that has no hard CC (re: stuns), all their CC is movement impairing effects, like Frost Shock, Earthbind totem, etc. Having a stun on a class that doesn't have a stun, even if it's on a two minute cooldown, is still very good to have and comes in very handy.

Absolutely, Tauren opens up for huge burst windows that Orcs can't. But Shamans are pretty bursty as it is.

There is no better feeling then having a rogue open up on you and missing both kidney and cheap shot. As well as a Paladin with there HoJ.

More so World pvp..not really a arena guy..
So looks like most prefer Orc w 25% and 5% stun resist...over Tauren hoofstomp lol

I'm 95% sure this isn't the case but...

does Orc pet passive buff fire totem damage?

Recent thread on PvP shaman race:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2014

For PvE if you wanted to go Enh then Orc is by far the best option with Axe Spec + Bloodfury.

Troll for Restoration. Berserking makes you cast as if you're Sonic the God damn Hedgehog.
Orcs for Enhancement as they get Axe Specialization, big racial for Enhancement. Blood Fury is a huge plus and Hardiness is straight up OP.

War Stomp is and can be very useful and their leeway is absolutely nutty.

Go Tauren and go Enhancement, WF crit those pesky gnomes from miles away!