In a recent interview, the classic wow development team said that they would not put in the OG epic mounts at the begging because they did not want people to feel rushed while leveling for their first time in vanilla. Is this justified?

I think too many people would have them and they would not feel as unique or exclusive as they did in vanilla.

I'm a druid so most of my travel is not mounted, so I don't have a strong opinion on the issue.

i really do not care for mounts. never got the Epic pala mount and took the pvp horse till i got exalted with AV and then rode the Ram to piss people off.

Yes! I don't want to feel rushed while leveling my first time.

This I agree with. I do not want to feel rushed while levelling.

However, that does not mean I think certain items should be unavailable. I also think it's a choice to feel rushed towards something, it's not always something that us forced upon you.

Would be cool if you could be flagged as eligible for obtaining it if you log in and reserve your characters name, when it opens up in those two weeks before launch. Sort of like you were there before patch 1.12. Blizz should do this to create even more hype and a stronger incentive to get in earlier.

The Palomino was one of the goals I was really looking forward to as well :(

Evocati wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Would be cool if you could be flagged as eligible for obtaining it if you log in and reserve your characters name, when it opens up in those two weeks before launch. Sort of like you were there before patch 1.12. Blizz should do this to create even more hype and a stronger incentive to get in earlier.

Would feel a bit like pay2win, though.
Everyone who pays an extra 13 bucks would get a chance for a rare mount, everyone else wouldn't. I think that would just result in a big outcry, and imo Blizz is already pushing it a bit with requiring a sub to play beta and selling reservations for names.


Overall I feel like it's the right idea to not include them. Blizz is right in saying that it would make people feel like they have to rush through that otherwise wouldn't, and on top of that the reason why we'd want these mounts now is because they're rare, but the moment you make them available like that would result in the majority of people having said mounts and it would lose its novelty.

Similar thing with selling T3 on the BMAH on Retail. It was a rare sight to see T3 b4 and it felt special. But when they put it on the Auction House soon enough everyone had a set of T3 and it just wasn't special anymore, just yet another transmog set for people.


I'm fine with not including the old mounts. There are plenty other good looking and rare mounts to acquire.

It's a bit sad to see that they won't be implemented, but gameplay wise there's really no difference.
I think getting a 100% speed mount will be an undertaking anyway regardless of the fact that you would need to rush to get an unarmored version on top of that. But I can understand the people wanting to dedicate their first experiences on classic doing this.

The vanity of the unarmored mounts only became a thing after people realised they wouldn't come back which makes the situation totally different.
If they wanted to pull a similar trick this time around, it would be to use the armored mounts, and then implement the unarmored ones later on in order to fade out the armored ones.

And to why they would want to do that, I have no clue.

I understand their intent with this change, but I was really looking forward to making a push for the unarmored white raptor. I often ride it on retail, when I DO play retail. Just for the old school badassary.

It's whatever, they got gone in 1.4 right? Seems fine to me.

Seems like an alright decision. There's plenty of other mounts to get.

I don't care for mounts in Classic. For collections and other things I got retail version now :)

I only care for the AV Ram for my glorious Human Ret pala

The real loss is no release of the Dawnsaber

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At the beginning when I heard this news I was a bit sad, I really wanted an Olive Raptor :D
But the reason they gave is totally right: you would have a pretty large group of people rushing to 60 just for that reason, and that would have had an impact on the server as a whole

I guess I don't understand how an attractive goal like particular mounts at the end means you are forced to rush and that's enough of a reason to remove something. To me there's lots of shit I'm super excited for at level 60. It IS motivating me to want to level faster and it would royally suck if they were removed because of it. Maybe I'm not understanding something fundamental here.

"We didn't want to make players feel like they had to rush" is going to be the "Extra deckslots are confusing to new players" of this game.

It's totally silly but typical for today's out of touch game developers. There are many more advantages to leveling quickly to 60 and obtaining an early mount, but the graphical representation is the most tangible thing so that's what gets targetted.

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6 years ago

"We didn't want to make players feel like they had to rush" is going to be the "Extra deckslots are confusing to new players" of this game.

It's totally silly but typical for today's out of touch game developers. There are many more advantages to leveling quickly to 60 and obtaining an early mount, but the graphical representation is the most tangible thing so that's what gets targetted.

I don't think your comparison is fair. This is purely cosmetic, and serves absolutely no gameplay purpose other than to rush players to 60 if you want a uniquely colored mount. If you need a unique mount to incentivize your drive for the 100% mount then I think it's absolutely perfect they removed it. Retail is full of achievement mounts and detract from the sense of the game itself, and contribute to the "look at muh badges" mentality. I thought all of the Classic crowd would agree these sort of 'rewards' is not what Classic is about. They don't remove Thunderfury after 2 months either.

Sure, they could keep them in together with the armored mounts, and just not take them out ever. That could be fine, too.