Stfuppercut wrote: ↑
8 months ago
I'd like to start by saying im not fully committed to rolling need or greeding, but you are specifically asking for "the argument FPR "need BOE for AH"", so here it is.
Gold matters. Gold matters a lot. As a leveling warrior, I may not have many of my tanking abilities, I may not have a tanking set and I may not have a mount... A BoE item presents an opportunity for me to get gold to invest in an equal piece of gear OR something even more impactful like an ability I dont have access to or my mount. A group of random strangers will never be able to objectively determine who NEEDS an item the most. Due to the fact that gold is SO important in vanilla, a valuable BoE item is worth far more than its stats for any one individual.
Ninjaing. Just because someone can use an item, doesnt mean that they will. "Oh, but that will ruin their reputation..." Will it? Im a rogue with daggers in your group. Krol Blade drops. I roll need. You ask me to equip, I say "I fully intend to, I just havent trained swords". After I have left, you will never be able to prove I havent equipped it. I can always extend the lie by saying it is in my bank the next time we meet... Etc etc etc... Blizz already said they wont be resolving loot conflicts, everyone needing is a surefire way that no BoE can be ninja'd. A lot of players will risk staining their reputation for exceptional items...
Players are incentivized to need on items that they would prefer to sell so that they have guaranteed gain. People are inherently self interested... Lets assume I am in a group of 5 people. Im a good guy, I wont ninja, but Im still worried about #1. A Krol Blade drops. I would prefer to win the roll legitimately on a greed so I can sell it, but I dont completely trust the group AND I only have a 20% chance of winning... While the Krol Blade is a minor upgrade for me, I would still be incentivized to take the 100% chance of needing and equipping the item for a small gain instead of taking a 20% chance at the gold. In this circumstance, I am motivated to roll on an item that I dont even really want due to the need over greed system.
In most cases, the value of the gold from selling a BoE will be more impactful to a players progression than equipping the BoE item itself. This is especially true for leveling characters or characters grinding dungeons with very few exceptions. This truth can even be extended into raiding. Is it numerically better to give a single rogue in the guild a Tebuu's Blazing Longsword for a minor damage increase (1/40 players gaining a stat advantage) or selling that same sword for 4-5000g and investing in consumes for the entire guild?