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Henhouse wrote:
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IronBrutzler wrote:
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maybe even Gearscore!!!!
I really hope gearscore doesn't come to vanilla. Vanilla had many uses for lower level items having great usage it wouldn't make sense for a itemlevel/rarity based score. https://classic.wowhead.com/item=1404/tidal-charm is a level 41 item, uncommon rarity and is used extremely commonly in PvP (though often just switched to for a brief moment via macro), but still. Vanilla isn't high item level based like later expansions. Would be super misleading in some cases, I think.
Yeah i think when it comes back they would use a BIS score that show how far someone is in the stages and how many BIS Percentace they have.

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When was cartographer made available? I might use that while leveling, but otherwise I think I'll go bare bones.

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I can not live without addons. I suspect we will be getting versions of the modern addons instead of the old ones because they are using a modern API. It will be easier to adapt he newer programs than the old ones. I think, I'm not a programmer though.

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I also can't live without them. I'm such an addon freak... I tweak them a lot according to my needs, never use em out of the box. Only n00bs use 'Mik's Scrolling Battle Text' with default settings. I also need my tooltips on my cursor, not on the right hand corner of the screen, duh!


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All the little inconveniences are roadbumps which keep you driving at 30 instead of 100, and addons undo a lot of those inconveniences. It's very hard to appreciate the scenery at 100.

- Quest helpers take questing from [try to figure out what the quest is, where to go, what to do, & explore on the way there] to [go directly to marker, mash buttons]. The quest helper gameplay loop has way less variety, and it burns you out faster.

- Gearscore addons make being a gear nazi easier.

- Auctioneer is a nuke in market PvP which is very hard to compete against without having it yourself, and it makes certain really antisocial strategies like blanketing the first 3 search result pages of a good in no-buyout single-stacks viable.

- Atlas and co take all the mystery (and discovery) out of loot tables. Yes, it's all on the internet, but it's not all in your brain, and you have the freedom to approach dungeons without knowing whether they contain a significant upgrade for you. This makes it HELLA exciting when they do!

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If Blizzard does not add the low-level quest-tracking feature that was added in Wrath, then I'd want an addon to provide the same functionality.

If Blizzard does not add the "clean up bags" button, then I'd want an addon to provide the same functionality.

If Blizzard does not provide the "unlearned recipes" tab that exists in modern WoW, then I'd want Ackis Recipe List.

Auctionator, TomTom, also yes.

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i'm fine with addon's as long as they don't automate gameplay or add automated grouping features.

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AddOns just enhance game, they aren't damaging gameplay. I stay with the word that if you don't want to use them, just don't use them.I like custimzed UI that's why I like and use AddOns all the time.

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Bobi wrote:
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AddOns just enhance game, they aren't damaging gameplay
There were some that did damage the Gameplay, like Healbot or Gearscore.

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@@IronBrutzler
Healbot isn't bot by any meaning, it's just makes mouseover macros for spells which you can cast on friendly frames. You can do exacly same thing with in-game macros.
Gearscore isn't that bad too, this only helps to evaluate a gear of player you choose to join you in raid/party. If you want to have smooth run you want good player with good gear, and GS helps to check one of these criteria.

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Bobi wrote:
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Healbot isn't bot by any meaning, it's just makes mouseover macros for spells which you can cast on friendly frames. You can do exacly same thing with in-game macros.
That is not true at all. The original Healbot did things you could not to with one makro on one button. It has a reason why Blizz broke it back then.

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Can someone explain to me why they're not allowing Decursive? I've been using it since BC, so was surprised to see it on the list.

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@IronBrutzler
Blizzard API this days doesn't allow automatization, so after porting whole project to 7.3.5 Retail Server Side this should be not allowed anymore. I hope this will allow to make in-game macros easier and wont work like it did back in Vanilla.

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Bobi wrote:
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Blizzard API this days doesn't allow automatization, so after porting whole project to 7.3.5 Retail Server Side this should be not allowed anymore. I hope this will allow to make in-game macros easier and wont work like it did back in Vanilla.
I know that but they did not say how the whole Addon thing will work out. Gatherer worked also different than it does now.

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Cielos wrote:
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Can someone explain to me why they're not allowing Decursive? I've been using it since BC, so was surprised to see it on the list.
Is there a list of disallowed addons ????

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Muhip wrote:
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Cielos wrote:
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Can someone explain to me why they're not allowing Decursive? I've been using it since BC, so was surprised to see it on the list.
Is there a list of disallowed addons ????
Anything that automates gameplay is being broken. So like old school healbot where it would select the right rank of heal? Busted.

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Muhip wrote:
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Is there a list of disallowed addons ????
There isn't a full list, but Decursive was specifically mentioned in a stickied thread in the official Classic Forums. If you go to Curse Forge and sort by what addons were usable in 1.12, it's quite short. It makes me wonder if DBM or BigWigs will be allowed.

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Cielos wrote:
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It makes me wonder if DBM or BigWigs will be allowed.
Why should not they be allowed?

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IronBrutzler wrote:
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Why should not they be allowed?
I'm not saying they shouldn't and I hope they are allowed. I didn't play in Vanilla, and since Decursive won't be allowed, I'm just trying to figure out what other addons won't be allowed. Saying they will ban something which automates gameplay is not helpful to me, as I didn't see Decursive as falling into this list. Decursive to me was just a lazy man's mouseover macro.

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