Certainly. But it's a shame that BC strikes a good balance with this and Vanilla does not; where in BC, elemental is a support spec with good enough dps to take on a raid coupled with great buffs and in Vanilla, elemental is just too bad to even fill a decent support role. That's my point. It has neither the dps or the buffs.Jpy wrote: ↑7 years agoTo be fair Mage and Warlock are purely DPS classes and Shaman is a versatile class. There should be differences.Toshiok wrote: ↑7 years agoAs someone who plays mage but always wanted elemental shaman to be viable in PvE:
A comparable rank of lightning bolt to other classes nukes. Max rank Lightning bolt is a lot weaker than max rank Frostbolt/Fireball/Shadowbolt. Not only that, but those other spells get additional bonus ranks from the AQ tomes.
Also, Fire mage gets a talent that gives them mana regen from crits called...Master of the Elements. And Elemental shaman gets nothing like that. Yeah. Like Elemental Shaman has a lot of crit only through talents and base int. Like 25% chance to crit without gear. And that talent would be great. But alas.
Temaius - Paladin
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YES! Mobility envy is a huge part of the Vanilla leveling experience. ;-)
I pretty much sucked in Vanilla so I hated everyone else because they were all better then me. 
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What youre asking for isnt unreasonable... A comparable tome drop from AQ to help validate the spec. Not a complete overhaul to rebalance things. I feel this way about SO many specs. Most don't need an overhaul. Just a subtle shift to help them validate themselves. This wouldnt rewrite the meta. This wouldnt suddenly make Ele shamans the kings of DPS... For the most part this would still be a fringe spec with mana issues, but at least it would be validated.Gensei wrote: ↑7 years agoCertainly. But it's a shame that BC strikes a good balance with this and Vanilla does not; where in BC, elemental is a support spec with good enough dps to take on a raid coupled with great buffs and in Vanilla, elemental is just too bad to even fill a decent support role. That's my point. It has neither the dps or the buffs.
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Shamans
- Brainless Purge/Frostshock spam completely ruined my PvP experience :(
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I played a Rogue in vanilla and i envied Mages a lot, it seemed like they had everything, portals, conjure food, blink, aoe grinding. This time im going to play a priest and im sure i will envy mages again lol :)
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Coming from an Alliance back in vanilla, it would have to be the shaman. Their toolkit was just so cool and diverse! They can heal, they can melee, they can cast spells, they can wear a shield! They can rez. They can rez themselves! They have windfury weapon. It was just wild to me! I wish my friends and I had rerolled horde during vanilla. I didn't make that mistake in BC though 
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lol, they might pass you now with their tricks but you get one of the cooler looking mounts at the end of it.
Warlocks...
Corruption + Curse of agony
FEAR
Immolate, break free,
FEAR
Shadow bolt
FEAR
dies from curse
Leveling as a warrior I'd have to say....
everything pretty much any class can do pre-60.
As a warrior if you pull extra mobs you are pretty much dead before sweeping strikes, and even then you have virtually zero ways to mitigate damage or heal, so you just die.
Just wait till I hit 60 tho!
I'm a pally player but I spent my fair share fighting against paladins in BGs as my orc warrior.
Why I hate paladins:
-Can wear plate as healers
-spam freedom onthemselves and Flag
-cleanse out of everything
-blessing of sacrifice out of CC
-bubble and spin flags
-free mount
Why I love playing paladins:
-Can wear plate as healers
-spam freedom on myself and Flag
-cleanse out of everything
-blessing of sacrifice out of CC
-bubble and spin flags
-free mount
It depends what I'm playing, but in general:
When I play pure dmg class, I envy everything on the healing classes and vise versa. "Ohh look, he can freedom his friend warrior, and they wreck shit together" or " omg, it takes me so long to kill this guy,look at that mage, he just 3shotet somebody"
As a Cat/Pandababy, I'm accustomed to "tank" meaning "I can fight 10+ mobs at once and live to tell about it". I am NOT accustomed to "tank" meaning "I'm just as squishy as a DPS but I do less damage and I have a giant neon-pink bullseye on my back". This was a rough adjustment.
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Hunter:
- open world pvp against a hunter in the under level 60 range. the pet is literally a 2nd player from it's dmg.
Warlock:
- The endless ez clap fear chains are sometimes annoying ;_;
- The lazy warlocks (okay it's more a thing of personality, not the class itself). Most of the time the lazy WL is the last person arriving a dungeon. On 60 he is not pre-farming shards for raids, he/she is too lazy to summ any other pet than his imp to give the group more utility if needed.
Horde
Gravediggers
How many rogues does it take to kill a paladin.
2 - 1 out in the world and 1 where ever the hearth stone is set too
As someone who's at least weighing playing elemental shaman, I basically envy any mana management talent a mage has.
Temaius - Paladin
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As a druid main, I always envied hunters for having pets. Druids are supposed to be like all classes mixed into one, so I always wished we had a true pet like a treant that lasted forever rather than 3 minutes.
100% this.
I did not, I was mocking him.
Orcs stun resist. I wanna roll a Tauren, but if an orc can play the class uuuuugh.
My most hated class is Hunter for sure, they never leave you alone in the open world and getting kiting is one of the worst feelings. I'm going to be making sure I bring plenty of FAPs with me while I level.
Most envied class is Mage just for their control as frost.
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