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 Blizzard Entertainment

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As we get closer to WoW Classic’s release, we thought now would be a good time to talk about our plans for Classic realms here in Europe.

We’ve prepared several realms, which will include Player vs Player, Player vs Environment, and Role-playing realms.

For Classic, we’re planning on not splitting up realms by language. This has its advantages and disadvantages, but overall, we think that it’s the best starting point for WoW Classic. An exception will be made for the Russian language, which will have separate realms due to its reliance on the Cyrillic Alphabet. For technical reasons this will also mean Russian is going to have its own separate game client, similar to what happened in The Burning Crusade.

We think this approach will give players more freedom to move around to where they want, and find guilds and friends that best match their interests.

Greetings,
Aeh

The UK server is now accepting French, German and Spanish refugees.

I must say, as a German, that I find this mega nice. I have so much hoped that no language specific servers come.

I saw the reddit post on this, the euro's there were complaining about the difficulty grouping alongside people of different languages, and the 'unofficial' servers that sprouted up.

Lots of potential for conflict, but a parallel: in EvE Online, where there is only 1 server, there are lots of national / regional groups and it provides interesting content: russians vs. the world, etc etc.

Since the announcement, a lot of known streamers/players on Twitter here in France are debating about if it's a good or bad thing to not split up realms by language...

I don't mind because I'm bilingual, but we got a reputation here that we're (for the majority) not very good english speakers so it might be a problem for some that would shy away instead of socializing with others, which is against the "true classic experience".

So mixed feeling for now, even if in the end, communities gatherer will come along and pick one server and invite everyone that speaks their mothertongue to join, so eventually this problem isn't a real one.

Shyneur wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Since the announcement, a lot of known streamers/players on Twitter here in France are debating about if it's a good or bad thing to not split up realms by language...

I don't mind because I'm bilingual, but we got a reputation here that we're (for the majority) not very good english speakers so it might be a problem for some that would shy away instead of socializing with others, which is against the "true classic experience".

So mixed feeling for now, even if in the end, communities gatherer will come along and pick one server and invite everyone that speaks their mothertongue to join, so eventually this problem isn't a real one.

You will still have communities that only speak German or another language ;).

Frosted wrote: ↑

6 years ago

I saw the reddit post on this, the euro's there were complaining about the difficulty grouping alongside people of different languages, and the 'unofficial' servers that sprouted up.

Lots of potential for conflict, but a parallel: in EvE Online, where there is only 1 server, there are lots of national / regional groups and it provides interesting content: russians vs. the world, etc etc.

It's mainly a problem with Russians, who usually prefer not to speak english compared to the rest of Europe which use english as their main form of communication online. Another group that does this are the Chinese, in both cases it's probably because they are very large groups so they can get by just within their own language-community.

Not splitting up the European community is probably what I hoped for. And not having to deal with empty speech bubbles (Cyrillic text that my client doesn't recognize) is also great. Couldn't be happier as a Scandinavian who has played on private servers and formed many bonds with Germans, French, Greeks, etc. over the years.

Here's to more of that!

No hablas Ingles? Deal with it, mon amie. (Und damit keiner meckert, ich bin auch kein Muttersprachler)

As an American I would like to thank all (most) of you Europeans who speak our great (de facto) national language. It makes traveling to Europe a hell of a lot easier.

I personally think this is a really bad idea, hopefully Blizzard change their minds on this. They must release the list of realms as soon as possible so communities can start forming from now and english speakers can know wich servers to avoid. Nobody wants to roll on a server and 2 weeks later realize nobody is speaking english there.

At times like this, it is nice to be in North America. Just VPN block everyone in the eastern hemisphere and isolate all of South America to their own realms. I'm sure the rest of the world is happy to have the North Americans off of their realms, and the feeling is mutual!

Biggest grievance with private is dealing with all of the Russian and Chinese users. I will miss some of my European friends, but this is just how it has to be </3

It'll end up same as on Drak'Thul EU realm now. It's full of Czech / Slovak people and they don't respect the rules about the official language.

Do we know if there will be client localization at least? My father, a very hardcore player of 71, doesn't speak english, and if the quests are not in spanish he won't be able to play...

daisyKutter wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Do we know if there will be client localization at least? My father, a very hardcore player of 71, doesn't speak english, and if the quests are not in spanish he won't be able to play...

There will be 100% translated clients. If not, it will not be difficult to have such translations done, we have everything in principle.

I really don't care about language specific servers, but here in Spain not everybody speaks english so maybe some playerbase will be lost with the decision, right now thinking in a couple of friends. At least we have the client for them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I like meeting random people throughout the realm from different countries.. I prefer not playing with russians for obvious reasons of language barrier and latency issues.. I am actually looking forward to playing with germans, have done so before on retail in RBG groups without problems.

I personally love playing with ppl from all over the world.
But this is a big mistake, to many ppl in the EU either don't speak english or don't want to, i have been on servers where the primary language was not english, and i do understand that ppl wanna use their native tongue, but you try making a trade with someone that speak a different language, or joining a pug just to realize that the only english the party speaks was the "LF healer for XXX dungeon" they spammed in LFG/trade/general. that's the stuff nightmares are made of.
Not to mention looking at /1 and wondering what the #¤%& are ppl writing.
Even now the EU forum is being flooded with posts in every language present in the EU. They are however making a valid point by doing it, bc it does show what kinda problem communication is gonna be once the servers goes live.

aeh wrote: ↑

6 years ago

I must say, as a German, that I find this mega nice. I have so much hoped that no language specific servers come.

Yes, I feel the same. Will not join a german guild, but maybe I do a german pug raid discord on my server because I cannot raidlead in english.

FTHforever wrote: ↑

6 years ago

aeh wrote: ↑

6 years ago

I must say, as a German, that I find this mega nice. I have so much hoped that no language specific servers come.

Yes, I feel the same. Will not join a german guild, but maybe a do german pug raid discord on my server because I cannot raidlead in english.

This would be a good Idea. Im also not in a german Guild, as you can see in my signature, im playing in GRIND, its a Guild from people all over the world. In principle we have been mostly private server players in the last 5+ years.

As a Latvian, I don't mind, but if I encounter some entitled fucks who can't speak in English and curse me in their native tongue that I don't understand, then we have a problem. For example - French. As people have mentioned they don't know or don't want to speak English.

I agree with Blizzard's decision of not creating language realm specific realms to not divide what they think will be a small community in the long term. However, knowing Blizzard, they will probably succumb to the pressure and create those realms eventually, to only realize they have small comunities one year from now, or so... I expect until then, various national guilds to rise up, but that is only normal, I guess.

I've played with people from every country, even some russians, who, by the way, where very nice people and very knowledgeble of their class. I'm not a native english speaker, and having been in a national guild before I can say it was nice, but it did have its limitations when we couldn't find anyone to fill a roll back in LK. Thus I prefer international guilds, I guess speaking or understanding spanish, italian, french, english and portuguese helps as I can group with them... By knowing just your own national language (and this includes english speaking people) limits your interaction with others...

I have no problem with this at all - the more the merrier.
As a Belgian, I speak both Dutch and French. I also speak and understand English + I understand German, but don't really speak it.

In addition, we can assume in the long run that the servers are really full. I can imagine that many of the people who are crying now are the people who quit the fastest.

I dont mind playing with people from other parts of the world, but when /1 General chat is spammed with any language other then english I get pissed. That includes my native language. As a Swede I would never choose a Swedish server if they ever existed. I dont mind other languages recruiting in their own language for their guild, but when they chat in general in another language then english, it pushes my buttons.

Well, Blizzard is trying to keep costs as low as possible. Good for them.

But as a french who always played on french servers on official WoW, even though I know it will be like private servers where communities quickly emerged and you didn't have to speak english the whole time you were playing, being forced by Blizzard to speak english to play WoW Classic annoys the shit out of me.

German and French servers (at least) were mandatory.