Nymis wrote: ↑6 years ago
Firelord wrote: ↑6 years ago
Roleplayers tend to be shat on a lot by other players, which in itself is quite ironic -- nerds hating on other nerds, more or less.
People shit on them because most of them are not very good PvE players. Every time I looked on wowprogress or something, barely 1/4 of them even step into Mythic whereas on PvP realms it's always about half the guilds there. I'm looking at wowprogress now and RP realms have between 1-5 guilds doing 8/8M whereas good PvP realms have about 40-60 guilds doing 8/8M - with just double the population.
I did this because every time I used to be cross-realmed with anyone from an RP realm for a Timewalking dungeon, they'd be the slowpokes of the group and would start calling me an elitist jerk for demanding they hurry the fuck up in dungeons where you just had to press W and spam abilities in that general direction to win.
Not only that, but they also tend to be the equivalent of SJWs pansies in online games. I still remember laughing my ass off at all the offended daisies when people were doing Project 60 on RP realms and trolling them. A few examples
from this thread:
- Its hard to do anything 'in character' in Stormwind without some level 26 human paladin looking for a group for the Stockades running up and calling you autistic or jumping around being an annoyance or 'dancing suggestively' in your face or some other juvenile shit. Its really gotten bad.
- So when I see Stormwind and it's not "Divorced Mother of Three Seeks Sexy Lord of the Night for Thrills and Chills in Haunted Castle," and instead it's this super fast yelling match to see who can say "cuck" faster and angrier, I get concerned for what happened to the Stormwind on my server.
- I encountered one a few hours ago. My guild was doing an event in the Swamp of Sorrows, a random night elf came up to us and called us all gay and retarded. I brought up the fact that they're playing on a RP server and complaining about roleplay, to which they just ended up calling me gay and retarded.
I mean yeah, sure it's terrible but they made it look like RP realms are their own safe-space and it was hilarious to see them try to face the real part of the internet for a short time.
A lot of them also get into ERP to a disgusting extent. I boosted a toon there to try and raid and just tried to get into some actual RP. No, all those memes about sickos in chat weren't just memes.
I don't blame you at all.
Roleplayers overall tend to be really the sensitive type who indeed, as you put it, think wherever they go needs to be a "safe space."
I have dealt with my own situations of justice warrior-like types who really aren't very enjoyable people at all to deal with. I have done my fair share of roleplay in World of Warcraft, and this past year, in Final Fantasy XIV. I can tell you, the quality of said roleplayers aren't all too amazing since majority of them doesn't really try to fit into the lore, but rather, twist the lore to fit their character.
Many times, I have just started to call it fetish roleplay, rather than roleplay.
Something which is both annoying and sad is that many of these people, roleplayers, deal with all kinds of depressions and situations. Sharing forums or Discord servers with them is close to impossible since
a lot of them tend to get triggered by everything, even by things that happens in the game, in the story itself, and if you mention it, you got a whole lot of words coming your way, with the group of, well, white knights following. Many use roleplay as an escape from their depression, which isn't bad by itself, it just becomes horrible when they expect people around them to be some sort of support group, and when that is not the case, there is a shitstorm brewing.
So with that part of roleplayers being ridiculed I don't blame you at all for thinking. Much of what you said is completely true. I guess I can put myself in the actual roleplayer category, which doesn't deal with any of those things mentioned, nor am I interested in writing dirty to strangers.
I guess what I meant by writing this;
Firelord wrote: ↑6 years ago
Roleplayers tend to be shat on a lot by other players, which in itself is quite ironic -- nerds hating on other nerds, more or less.
I'm looking way, way back to LARP days (disclaimer, I do not, and have not done any LARP myself) where people roleplayed out in the woods, dressing up in medieval-like clothes, wielding plastic swords and the likes.
That is what I meant by 'nerds ridiculing other nerds' because I do remember in games like World of Warcraft, or on forums, people who did LARP/Roleplay were ridiculed for it.
But 'roleplayers' being ridiculed for the things that you stated? I completely understand it, and in fact, roleplayers ridicule them too. Roleplayers don't enjoy the sight of those who do 'cyber' stuff, because it just gives us who wants to
actually roleplay, a bad name.
So, I can only apologise for you ending up in groups with those who think an efficient dungeon run is you being an elitist. Kick them if needed, I would have done the same thing.
This, however;
I encountered one a few hours ago. My guild was doing an event in the Swamp of Sorrows, a random night elf came up to us and called us all gay and retarded. I brought up the fact that they're playing on a RP server and complaining about roleplay, to which they just ended up calling me gay and retarded.
I can completely sympathise with the roleplayer, but maybe not to the extent to whine about it.
Yes, "lollers" as people call them come and go, and they do everything they can to be an annoyance in the game world. Most of the time it just works by ignoring them.
Yes, they have all the rights to be in that spot and do whatever, but there is zero politeness by being an annoyance like that, to people who just try to roleplay with their group in a spot.