Sorry for a class choice thread, but I have some fairly well-defined criteria and have narrowed it to 2 classes, so hopefully you can help me out!

I’m torn between Rogue and Mage.

I played Vanilla and TBC, but not hardcore, so I’m pretty inexperienced, certainly compared to my mates who no lifed it through to WOTLK.

We’ve all got busier lives now, so our focus will be casual PVP, with some dungeons thrown in.

I’m looking for a class that:

- is effective in all forms of PVP
- is relatively simple to learn and can be reasonably effective in PVP with basic skills and class knowledge
- has depth, so over time, as I improve I can get more out of the class (i.e. high skill ceiling no bad thing, subject to bullet point above)
- is simple in dungeons and raids, as I don’t know the encounters well and I don’t want to screw things up for my mates!

Does that sound more like Rogue or Mage?

Thanks!!

So sick of these posts

For what you described in what you want in a character they both offer that, one is melee and has energy and one is ranged and has mana. Either one would fulfill your "wants".

I would say that although Rogue theoretically ticks off the boxes, Mage ticks them better.

Erik wrote: ↑

5 years ago

So sick of these posts

For what you described in what you want in a character they both offer that, one is melee and has energy and one is ranged and has mana. Either one would fulfill your "wants".

@Erik Thanks for overcoming your rage and taking the time to respond, much appreciated :)

Linguine wrote: ↑

5 years ago

I would say that although Rogue theoretically ticks off the boxes, Mage ticks them better.

Ah ok, thanks!

Which would you say is least gear dependent?

Ouijah wrote: ↑

5 years ago

Linguine wrote: ↑

5 years ago

I would say that although Rogue theoretically ticks off the boxes, Mage ticks them better.

Ah ok, thanks!

Which would you say is least gear dependent?

Mage, especially while leveling.

Even after leveling is over, every piece of gear you upgrade steadily improves you, whereas on a Rogue you really need those weapons and are competing not only against other rogues for the gear, but warriors as well in many cases.

Both are good choices for PVP.
Do you want to Melee or Ranged?
Do you want to AoE freeze and slow a group of enemies or do you want to sap and slay scouts slipping through your team?
Do you want to conjure biscuits and portals or do you want to pickpocket and open boxes?
Do you want to Polymorph or Sap?
Do you want to stealth into enemy lines or polymorph and provide support to yours?

I would roll mage for what you're describing here.

What kind of combat do you like better? I can't stand casters. All my characters have to be melee because the combat is just more fun for me. That might be something to consider as well.

Besides, rogues can be that much more obnoxious than mages in PvP. More opportunities to sneak up on people and make them rage quit if you time it right.

Ouijah wrote: ↑

5 years ago

I’m looking for a class that:

- is effective in all forms of PVP
- is relatively simple to learn and can be reasonably effective in PVP with basic skills and class knowledge
- has depth, so over time, as I improve I can get more out of the class (i.e. high skill ceiling no bad thing, subject to bullet point above)
- is simple in dungeons and raids, as I don’t know the encounters well and I don’t want to screw things up for my mates!

- Both classes are pretty effective indoors and outdoors PvP
- Both classes are easy to learn hard to master for PvP
- Both classes are solid a choice for PvP and have a high sky ceiling
- I would say that both are easy in dungeons / raids, but mage is easier.

Both classes are pretty good on those points, but as stated above I would say that mage maybe fits a little bit better.

That said, they are pretty different classes, what would you enjoy most? face to face encounters with stealth and preparation, or long ranged encounters with assistance as a caster?

Thanks for all the very helpful responses guys. I'm going to roll Mage - very excited! :)