Alright, Priest it is. I'm committing.

It now has 2 votes.

I guess I'll see you guys at Northshire. I wear cloth too! But, ummm, don't ask me about the Light...

Great to see the discussions, and also large representation for druids too. Peace be with you fellow druids, may your spirit guide you to favorable fortunes.

Priest!;)
But not as dwarf as I had originally planned...just picking a race for one specific racial is something I might have done back in the day; instead I will just look for a guild that is willing to accept non-dwarf priests into their raids.

Some of us want to create a suboptimal for fun EU Alliance PvP guild, if it sparks your interest.

Alnir wrote: ↑

6 years ago

William wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Well now I feel like I have to embrace the light...
That's decided then! I'll play... a...
Paladin!

This is not the outcome I had in mind! There is no way I'll be playing a dwarf...cont.

But dwarfs are literally like.. the best?!

Iolden wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Some of us want to create a suboptimal for fun EU Alliance PvP guild, if it sparks your interest.

Define suboptimal.

Quaria wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Iolden wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Some of us want to create a suboptimal for fun EU Alliance PvP guild, if it sparks your interest.

Define suboptimal.

sub·op·ti·mal
/səbˈäptəməl/
adjective
of less than the highest standard or quality.

Quaria wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Iolden wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Some of us want to create a suboptimal for fun EU Alliance PvP guild, if it sparks your interest.

Define suboptimal.

Not the ideal combination of attributes.
Human Priests, Arcane Mage, not many hours of playtime, not minmaxers, the whole casual package.

Even before Vanilla released, I always wanted to play an Orc Shaman. Due to circumstances however (friends playing Alliance, etc.) I went Gnome Warrior. Must admit, loved roleplaying the lil' guy.

Now, I am finally rolling an Orc Shaman! Cannot wait!

I am also undecided yet, Im choosing between Priest, Druid and Warlock. I have chosen Priest in the poll though as it is the most likely choice for me right now.

Iolden wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Quaria wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Iolden wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Some of us want to create a suboptimal for fun EU Alliance PvP guild, if it sparks your interest.

Define suboptimal.

Not the ideal combination of attributes.
Human Priests, Arcane Mage, not many hours of playtime, not minmaxers, the whole casual package.

I've played a dwarf priest in PvP and let me tell you: Fear ward is for PvE, not PvP. In PvP a warlock will just cast fear again and a priest will have purged you before casting psychic scream. Anytime a shaman is near he'll purge it too.

The actual useful skill for PvP is Desperate Prayer, which both humans and dwarves have. Night Elves lose out because Shadowmeld is almost certainly not going to protect casts in 1.13.

However, a priest might go Dwarf to be more valuable in PvE in hopes of being THE guild shadow priest and getting the shadow gear/not having to respec. Essentially, Fear Ward is a PvE bargaining chip that may benefit a PvPer behind the scenes but its usefulness in PvP was limited unless you were casting in on a non-heavy purge class (Warrior, Rogue, Hunter, etc.).

But....I must say Stoneform is OP. I never realized how good it was until I put on the Deviate Delight costume and then rogues were trying to blind me all the time because they didn't realize I was a dwarf. Much, MUCH, bigger difference than Fear Ward could ever make in PvP, but you're never going to get blinded anyway if your priest never makes it to level 30 so play the thing you like.

Fear Ward is a ridiculous 30 second CD in Vanilla. If you time it correctly there’s no reason for it to be purged before being used. Stoneform breaks Blind in Vanilla.
Human is fine but let’s not try to act like Dwarf isn’t superior for PvP.

E: I’ll be maining Rogue and spending a lot of time contesting Devilsaur skins in Un’Goro.

Linguine wrote: ↑

6 years ago

I've played a dwarf priest in PvP and let me tell you: Fear ward is for PvE, not PvP. In PvP a warlock will just cast fear again and a priest will have purged you before casting psychic scream. Anytime a shaman is near he'll purge it too.

The actual useful skill for PvP is Desperate Prayer, which both humans and dwarves have. Night Elves lose out because Shadowmeld is almost certainly not going to protect casts in 1.13.

However, a priest might go Dwarf to be more valuable in PvE in hopes of being THE guild shadow priest and getting the shadow gear/not having to respec. Essentially, Fear Ward is a PvE bargaining chip that may benefit a PvPer behind the scenes but its usefulness in PvP was limited unless you were casting in on a non-heavy purge class (Warrior, Rogue, Hunter, etc.).

But....I must say Stoneform is OP. I never realized how good it was until I put on the Deviate Delight costume and then rogues were trying to blind me all the time because they didn't realize I was a dwarf. Much, MUCH, bigger difference than Fear Ward could ever make in PvP. It's always up because a lot of rogues will turn around and blind someone else and not you.

You have missed out on Stoneform which is also very good in pvp besides Desperate Prayer. Ability to get rid of poisons and bleeds is pretty good for a priest in PVP.

More druids than rogues? What the hell

Syturio wrote: ↑

6 years ago

More druids than rogues? What the hell

We're rogues that can heal, tank and cast spells.... Why not?!

Faendor wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Linguine wrote: ↑

6 years ago

But....I must say Stoneform is OP. I never realized how good it was until I put on the Deviate Delight costume and then rogues were trying to blind me all the time because they didn't realize I was a dwarf. Much, MUCH, bigger difference than Fear Ward could ever make in PvP. It's always up because a lot of rogues will turn around and blind someone else and not you.

You have missed out on Stoneform which is also very good in pvp besides Desperate Prayer. Ability to get rid of poisons and bleeds is pretty good for a priest in PVP.

I tried to bold it to draw attention to it, but it appears that being tacked on as the final paragraph was too much.

Jpy wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Fear Ward is a ridiculous 30 second CD in Vanilla. If you time it correctly there’s no reason for it to be purged before being used. Stoneform breaks Blind in Vanilla.
Human is fine but let’s not try to act like Dwarf isn’t superior for PvP.

I thought the same about fear ward until I played it. It did help against warriors since they have a 3 min cd and cannot purge, but it was not nearly as stellar as I thought it would be. Maybe there were too many good pvpers on the private servers for it to work right? That giant cast animation doesn’t help either.

Low population of both Shaman and Paladin on this poll. I wonder if that'll reflect in-game for these two faction specific classes.

@William Remember that pala and shaman are faction restricted meanwhile other classes can be both factions meanung there will be more of them overall.

Selexin wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Syturio wrote: ↑

6 years ago

More druids than rogues? What the hell

We're rogues that can heal, tank and cast spells.... Why not?!

It's a fairly low sample size so far, would be very surprised if we don't se a huge surge of rogues.

William wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Low population of both Shaman and Paladin on this poll. I wonder if that'll reflect in-game for these two faction specific classes.

I think both Shaman and Paladin populations will be low, as they actually are the least played classes according to the data from the light's hope servers which can be seen here: https://lightshope.org/stats

So they are, with Druids only slightly ahead.

Makes sense then. I guess the biggest difference will be those who don't play private servers and just come back and roll a character for the fun of it.

Faendor wrote: ↑

6 years ago

@William Remember that pala and shaman are faction restricted meanwhile other classes can be both factions meanung there will be more of them overall.

Combine this with them both being seen as healers (a traditionally under played role) but not the healer (priest) and it's no surprise that they'd be underplayed.

With the stats from Light's Hope I'm actually surprised at how much Mage is trailing behind Rogue, Warlock, and Druid.

Selexin wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Hi guys, pretty typical question but with a Poll to help collate the information in one easy to read location. This poll is not for your alts or anything like that, this is for your main character that you will be focusing on as we head toward level 60 and beyond.

The poll does not allow for more options other than a short list, so I can't expand it to have specs/roles. @teebling Sticky?

Cheers, Selexin

I second the motion for sticky

Anyone else surprised with so many druids?

Oderlods wrote: ↑

6 years ago

Anyone else surprised with so many druids?

Yes actually, and I would be surprised if this is reflected on live servers. I love druids though so I'm down with it.

This is a relatively small sample size, but if we can keep this post near the top of the forums hopefully everyone votes.