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I'm not a TBC expert but I know that leatherworking is a must have for raiding. What other professions are good options to have and why?

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Why is leatherworking used for raiding in TBC? Legit question, played TBC but never raided and it was long ago enough I don't remember jack shit.

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Something about the drums that give the raid a buff that only leatherworkers can make.
I would guess engineering or jewelcrafting for the other.

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Pippina wrote:
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Why is leatherworking used for raiding in TBC? Legit question, played TBC but never raided and it was long ago enough I don't remember jack shit.
https://www.wowhead.com/item=29529/drums-of-battle

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Best like HARDCORE BIS? A tradeskill that matches the gear you use, like Tailoring, Blacksmithing or - in the case of Rogues or Hunters Leatherworking. Also later it can become Alchemy. You usuallly need a tradeskill level to use/equip the items, so relearning makes no sense.

On the second slot you rotate:

  • Leatherworking to 350 for using drums in raid
  • Enchanting to 350 every time you get new rings
  • Jewelcrafting to 350 if you want to change your unique tradeskill bonus gems
I doubt many people will do that, but you asked for best, not for effortless :mrgreen:

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Are there items that are BOP with tailoring or blacksmithing that are bis or seriously worth having?

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I will speak as a caster.

I think while leveling you go tailoring to craft BiS pre-raid gear then you can drop it later.
They do have leg enchants but I believe you can have a tailor put them on your legs for you so you dont need to be tailoring for it.

And enchanting because of the ring enchants, I believe are 12 sp on your ring so total of 24sp.
You need to be enchanting to put it on, another enchanter cant put it on for you, but you can drop enchanting if you want after you enchanted your rings.

And yes leatherworking would be the other profession because if all your group members have it you can rotate on using the drums and have a high uptime, I believe.

In the end, Enchanting/Leatherworking as caster
while leveling, tailoring and what ever

Side question: Can jewelcrafters add a socket to your belt? Not sure if this was TBC or Wrath.
But I remember jewelcrafters (I thought) could socket their own belt but not for anyone else, meaning you need to be jewelcrafting for it

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Taladril wrote:
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Are there items that are BOP with tailoring or blacksmithing that are bis or seriously worth having?
Profession based BOP items are a bit different in TBC, as they not only need you to be the correct profession, but also sometimes the correct specialisation for using them. Means, you need to have the skill to use that item.

Usually you get a 3 item set from any tailoring or leather working set, which is on tier5 level. Some items might be really hard to replace even.

Blacksmithing is a bit different: Armorsmiths get a 2 times upgradable chest which loosely match tier4/5/6 in power, as Weaponsmith you get a 1h and a 2h axe/mace/sword, which are also upgradable two times each. And while they are unique, you can use different levels of them: melee dps likes using a level3 + a level2 1h mace for example.

Then there are crafted BOEs, sometimes even sets, which work similar to vanilla ZG rep crafted sets: anyone can use, but for the set bonus you need the correct tradeskill (usually on 350).

@Nyxt can't socket belts in TBC, your personal bonus from JC is cheap unique gems and bop trinkets.

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I refuse to pick lw just for drums, i will pick something i enjoy - like everyone should (unless your only source of entertainment is min maxing i guess ) :P

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The thing with https://tbcdb.com/?item=29529 is, that you only need 4 per group to keep the buff up all the time.

So usually it doesn't matter much to sacrifice one of your slots for it - in 4/5 cases. It's kind of the same with sappers on viscidus: if you got a healthy amount of engis, not everyone needs it.

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You dont need sappers for viscidus either. It was never intended by Blizzard when they designed these encounters that most ppl should have em, the same with drums. I think its a boring way to play the game, to feel forced to pick something because the herd is such min maxing neckbeards and skips on everything that does not result in full blown top dawg e-peen dps etc.I will never force myself to do something like that, if other sheeps want to play that way, its their decision. I just think its kinda a cucked behavior :D

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Four per group is 80% of the group so pretty much everyone needs it if you want the uptime. And for how good they are, we all know how people play the game. This is basically required or as close to it as you will get. Guilds who don't do it will be looked down on. I don't like the mentality but it just seems inevitable for games like this.

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Taladril wrote:
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Four per group is 80% of the group so pretty much everyone needs it if you want the uptime. And for how good they are, we all know how people play the game. This is basically required or as close to it as you will get. Guilds who don't do it will be looked down on. I don't like the mentality but it just seems inevitable for games like this.
Who cares if elitist jerks looks down on you because you want to have fun instead of being a sheep? Stop being such cucks and pick the professions you want rather than what is expected of you by neckbeards :)

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LW is objectively the best profession in TBC, from a raid DPS standpoint.

Ironically, LW is not that great for Hunters and Rogues (compared to Tailoring for casters and Blacksmithing for melee). Still good though.
Tailoring is nice for casters but the gear won't last you through T5 (or even T4, depending on your class). Blacksmithing weapons are on par with T5 weapons for melee. If you are a Rogue I would actually advise BS for the Mace, it's better than every weapon you can get until Morogrims sword. For a Warrior they're even better, because you can DW them (Rogues want a fast offhand).

BS is a really very good profession to carry you to T6 if you are melee.
Tailoring is very nice for casters but most of the gear will be replaced in T4/T5.
LW gear for Rogues and Hunters will be replaced by Heroics/T4.

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morbidmike wrote:
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Get ready for Spellpower Rogues

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Nyxt wrote:
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morbidmike wrote:
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Get ready for Spellpower Rogues
If any Rogue takes my Bloodmaw Magus-Blade I will find him and end him myself :D

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