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IronBrutzler
1 month ago
i think in the long run they will come. But i think end of Classic will be runnung like 3-5 years before we see something about TBC servers.
Instinctz
1 month ago
Vhenx wrote:
1 month ago
I loved TBC, but I agree with those saying that it would ruin the Classic experience, in the way that once Classic is gone (again), people will be forced to go back to pservers if they want to continue playing it.
that is why you do SEPARATE bc servers. just like classic is separate from retail. bc is separate from both.
Vhenx wrote:
1 month ago
I would not mind it if it was something like option number 3, so TBC dedicated server next to Classic ones.
oh my bad, guess i should read your full post first.
Kchlangendin wrote:
1 month ago
What if after vanilla content have been experienced game will progress in a way new path?
the problem with this is it would have to be completely separate servers.
that and blizzard has admitted they have zero desire to develop new content for two separate mmos.
Raven
1 month ago
The thing is each expansion had something the expansion was known for.

(Personal opinion)
Vanilla - World Depth
TBC - PvP & PvE Split, arenas etc
Wrath - Class Balance
Cata - Class Imbalance
MoP - Class Design
WoD - Near-death
Legion - PvE
BfA - Death

For players [Insert Expansion Here] was their favourite and that's what they would love to play again. I personally would love to play MoP again for its pvp and Monk class design. The path that Blizzard took making expansion after expansion and not releasing a new game while continuing to host the previous is what gave birth to Private Servers and why so many have fled retail for them, everyone has different tastes of which is no longer provided by Blizz, but by others at a price.

I'd much rather Blizzard take a huge step back and look at World of Warcraft's entire lifetime, every inch every detail and see what people liked, what they yearn for and what made them excited to play that is World of Warcraft. AND then make a new game. Not an expansion, not a revisit with a different story line just a flat out new game.

Use all the information they've got from creating and hosting a game to millions of players over 15 years to give us the best game we can hope for without the restrictions of using a pre-existing game as its base.

Take the depth from Vanilla, take the attunement system and a modified arena system from TBC, take the class balance from WOTLK, take the class design from Mists, take the PvE and mechanics from Legion and focus on creating a game everyone wants.

Blizzard has become complacent on their throne and honestly the genre is in much need of attention.
Kchlangendin
1 month ago
What if after vanilla content have been experienced game will progress in a way new path? This sounds interesting isn't is? Cuz if they keep re-releasing existing expansions like TBC then TLK sooner or later they gonna come to a point when wow feels like retail. What if they will create new path for classic keeping the traditional gameplay like NSSoft made with their brand game Lineage II Classic. They keep developing it as a new game with its own new path considering all the mistakes they made creating retail game. Thoughts?
Vhenx
1 month ago
I loved TBC, but I agree with those saying that it would ruin the Classic experience, in the way that once Classic is gone (again), people will be forced to go back to pservers if they want to continue playing it.
I would not mind it if it was something like option number 3, so TBC dedicated server next to Classic ones.
Anyway, I also wonder at which point they will draw the end line because I would expect, 1 year or 2 into TBC, that some people will ask for WoTLK, and so on, and before you realize you are again in BFA :confused:
Instinctz
1 month ago
Syturio wrote:
1 year ago
As much as i love TBC, i think launching server for it would probably ruin Vanilla servers.
i didn't believe this when retailers said classic wow would ruin retail, and i don't believe it when vanilla fans say bc launching will ruin vanilla servers.
Hogbobson
4 months ago
Toastea wrote:
4 months ago
I mean the dream would be to have at least the original "trilogy" and have classic to Wrath. I think it all depends on the success of classic and that alone. I would hope for number 3 but I dont know what the future holds. One things for sure though, if classic doesnt explode TBC will not even be a thought. On the other side of things, if it does explode Blizzard would be insane not to
[rant]
If there was one expansion where I would downright /like/ them compromising and changing it for the better, it would be Wrath. No RDF (or maybe yes RDF, but then no cross realm RDF!) and for goodness' sake keep the tiered raids! Whose idea was it to make everything obsolete with each patch, instead of each expansion? Expansion is bad enough. No more high-level badges from dungeons! And let Ulduar last longer than four months, it deserved better.
[/rant]
Jpy
4 months ago
I reached like 2400 on Rdruid on the old one, the competition there was even better than retail
Syturio
4 months ago
Jpy wrote:
4 months ago
Syturio wrote:
4 months ago
Jpy wrote:
4 months ago
I think I would be more interested in revisiting WotLK arena (IMO the most brilliant 3v3 games I’ve experienced) more so than any content in TBC, so I guess I’ll be waiting a while. Vanilla remake will certainly suffice for now, let’s see them do that right first. :biggrin:
You don't have to wait.
You can play on Warmane.com (realm Blackrock), it's an instant level 80 WoTLK private server only about Arenas.
Been playing there for like 7 years.
They do some tournments from time to time, with IRL money rewards.
I’ve played on quite a few throughout the years (Arenatournament Realm 3.3.5 was quite big back in the day) but population seems to have dwindled for that and there was a lot of pay to win options. I’d much rather an official Blizzard server.
This one iam talking about (Blackrock realm from Warmane.com) it's actually Arena-tournment Realm 3.3.5, just a different name because they merged with another server. The population is a lot lower than what it used to be ye, but it's still fun to play.
Jpy
4 months ago
Syturio wrote:
4 months ago
Jpy wrote:
4 months ago
I think I would be more interested in revisiting WotLK arena (IMO the most brilliant 3v3 games I’ve experienced) more so than any content in TBC, so I guess I’ll be waiting a while. Vanilla remake will certainly suffice for now, let’s see them do that right first. :biggrin:
You don't have to wait.
You can play on Warmane.com (realm Blackrock), it's an instant level 80 WoTLK private server only about Arenas.
Been playing there for like 7 years.
They do some tournments from time to time, with IRL money rewards.
I’ve played on quite a few throughout the years (Arenatournament Realm 3.3.5 was quite big back in the day) but population seems to have dwindled for that and there was a lot of pay to win options. I’d much rather an official Blizzard server.
Syturio
4 months ago
Jpy wrote:
4 months ago
I think I would be more interested in revisiting WotLK arena (IMO the most brilliant 3v3 games I’ve experienced) more so than any content in TBC, so I guess I’ll be waiting a while. Vanilla remake will certainly suffice for now, let’s see them do that right first. :biggrin:
You don't have to wait.
You can play on Warmane.com (realm Blackrock), it's an instant level 80 WoTLK private server only about Arenas.
Been playing there for like 7 years.
They do some tournments from time to time, with IRL money rewards.
Jpy
4 months ago
I think I would be more interested in revisiting WotLK arena (IMO the most brilliant 3v3 games I’ve experienced) more so than any content in TBC, so I guess I’ll be waiting a while. Vanilla remake will certainly suffice for now, let’s see them do that right first. :biggrin:
Toastea
4 months ago
I mean the dream would be to have at least the original "trilogy" and have classic to Wrath. I think it all depends on the success of classic and that alone. I would hope for number 3 but I dont know what the future holds. One things for sure though, if classic doesnt explode TBC will not even be a thought. On the other side of things, if it does explode Blizzard would be insane not to
Kurzogg
4 months ago
Altoholic wrote:
1 year ago
Now i'm not sure about you, but i, and many classic community members are interested in BC after maybe a few years of legacy servers. How this system will work, i don't know. But my educated guesses point to a few ways blizzard might do it.
Number 1: A few years after our beloved classic servers have launched, blizzard will release Burning Crusade and we will be able to journey to level 70 in outland.
Number 2: There are whole new BC servers where we have to level from 1-70 (fresh server)
Number 3: Same as scenario 1, except we will be able to copy our characters to Burning Crusade servers and be able to play on classic and BC whenever we choose.
Number 4: Blizzard will not release BC at all and we will have Classic World of Warcraft forever
This is all a hypothetical situation for blizzards take on BC but it's just what i think will most likely happen. I might be completely wrong, but oh well :smile: . This is years down the line so i'm not too worried for it.. yet.. Please give me your guys' thoughts on this and tell me if i am missing a very likely scenario.
I desperately hope number 3 is the case.
Brokenshield
11 months ago
I'm okay with it so long as the vanilla servers remain intact. Else we will be back to square one with people wanting vanilla servers again.
Altoholic
1 year ago
slud wrote:
1 year ago
Altoholic wrote:
1 year ago
Now i'm not sure about you, but i, and many classic community members are interested in BC after maybe a few years of legacy servers. How this system will work, i don't know. But my educated guesses point to a few ways blizzard might do it.
Number 1: A few years after our beloved classic servers have launched, blizzard will release Burning Crusade and we will be able to journey to level 70 in outland.
Number 2: There are whole new BC servers where we have to level from 1-70 (fresh server)
Number 3: Same as scenario 1, except we will be able to copy our characters to Burning Crusade servers and be able to play on classic and BC whenever we choose.
Number 4: Blizzard will not release BC at all and we will have Classic World of Warcraft forever
This is all a hypothetical situation for blizzards take on BC but it's just what i think will most likely happen. I might be completely wrong, but oh well :smile: . This is years down the line so i'm not too worried for it.. yet.. Please give me your guys' thoughts on this and tell me if i am missing a very likely scenario.
Personally my preferred method would be like this: The Classic WoW server remains exactly as it is, and nobody can progress further than 60. But an additional server is made for The Burning Crusade and all characters are copied from the Classic realms and added to the new servers. So, players have the option of remaining in Classic WoW for all eternity, but their characters would be ported to The Burning Crusade realms and they could continue from 60 to 70 if they wanted to do so, just like we were able to do back in the day.

Obviously the two games would be separate. Mail couldn't be sent from one to the other, players couldn't interact between the two realms - they'd be completely separate.
Yes! I totally agree with this and it would be great if they did this for people who personally found BC more appealing than vanilla or for people who want to play BC after vanilla. :smile:
slud
1 year ago
Altoholic wrote:
1 year ago
Now i'm not sure about you, but i, and many classic community members are interested in BC after maybe a few years of legacy servers. How this system will work, i don't know. But my educated guesses point to a few ways blizzard might do it.
Number 1: A few years after our beloved classic servers have launched, blizzard will release Burning Crusade and we will be able to journey to level 70 in outland.
Number 2: There are whole new BC servers where we have to level from 1-70 (fresh server)
Number 3: Same as scenario 1, except we will be able to copy our characters to Burning Crusade servers and be able to play on classic and BC whenever we choose.
Number 4: Blizzard will not release BC at all and we will have Classic World of Warcraft forever
This is all a hypothetical situation for blizzards take on BC but it's just what i think will most likely happen. I might be completely wrong, but oh well :smile: . This is years down the line so i'm not too worried for it.. yet.. Please give me your guys' thoughts on this and tell me if i am missing a very likely scenario.
Personally my preferred method would be like this: The Classic WoW server remains exactly as it is, and nobody can progress further than 60. But an additional server is made for The Burning Crusade and all characters are copied from the Classic realms and added to the new servers. So, players have the option of remaining in Classic WoW for all eternity, but their characters would be ported to The Burning Crusade realms and they could continue from 60 to 70 if they wanted to do so, just like we were able to do back in the day.

Obviously the two games would be separate. Mail couldn't be sent from one to the other, players couldn't interact between the two realms - they'd be completely separate.
Iced_Plasma
1 year ago
Let's see how Classic goes first, that's my stance on this. An interesting idea and one that definitely will desired by a lot of players who probably found BC more nostalgic and enjoyable than vanilla itself!
Ravenheart
1 year ago
Altoholic wrote:
1 year ago
Number 3: Same as scenario 1, except we will be able to copy our characters to Burning Crusade servers and be able to play on classic and BC whenever we choose
I'm kind of like, still keen on just vanilla. But if BC were to be implemented at any time in the future, I would personally like to see it done in the way you mentioned above, Altoholic.

Welcome to BC btw :smile:
Rootdancer
1 year ago
I honestly don't even want to think about anything but Classic for now. Let's see what happens :mrgreen:
Firelord
1 year ago
At the moment my focus is on Classic.

In a dream scenario, Blizzard woul release a server for each expansion (even the ones I wouldn't play) and each server would have a healthy population, but I know this won't happen.

Classic should always remain as a piece of video game history, a 'museum' you can go back to and experience, to see the foundation of the current game and how it was, and how popular that iteration of the game became to build what they have today.

Do I want to play the Burning Crusade era? Yes, I do, and even the Wrath of the Lich King era, but there will always be this worry of splitting the player numbers far too much -- it will not be fun for anybody.
Razor
1 year ago
Warm welcome to the forum, new guys!

From my perspective, biggest mistake they would make is continuing towards TBC with the same characters we played in Vanilla. This way all of the sudden the whole point of commemorating Vanilla vanishes away, as it becomes only the matter of time when we end up where we are now. If they would ever want to release TBC, it should be either fresh start or (and from my point of view a better option) - allow you to copy your character and continue from there, yet retaining the same toon on Vanilla server.
Altoholic
1 year ago
Bazinwaz wrote:
1 year ago
If legacy servers are a success, and all content on the vanilla servers is cleared, then I can't see why they wouldn't release TBC servers. Like you said, this is years down the line, and honestly not worth discussing yet until we see that legacy servers are succeeding. But thinking positively, I would love to see legacy servers do well and years after them a TBC server sounds great.
I think staying positive like this is the key to successful legacy servers.
Bazinwaz
1 year ago
If legacy servers are a success, and all content on the vanilla servers is cleared, then I can't see why they wouldn't release TBC servers. Like you said, this is years down the line, and honestly not worth discussing yet until we see that legacy servers are succeeding. But thinking positively, I would love to see legacy servers do well and years after them a TBC server sounds great.
Syturio
1 year ago
There is already a similiar thread about this.
If they ever do it, i would preffer Number 2, fresh server.
As much as i love TBC, i think launching server for it would probably ruin Vanilla servers.
I see you are new here, welcome! :)